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Put Your Hands Down My Pants

At nineteen, I decided I was sick of working retail, so I started
looking for a new job. I found an ad on Craigslist, as shady as it
was, for a leasing agent job. The ad said it paid free rent, which,
for a broke teenager, sounded like a dream come true. My mother and
stepfather owned a real estate company, so I knew the business well
enough. I applied, and promptly got the job.

I should have known better: the complex is located in the ghetto, and
on my first day, I was informed that I’m a property manager, and that
the apartment is somewhat of a stipend, therefore the rent is
considered part of my paycheck. I should have walked out when they
said that, then made me sign a paper saying the apartment was not
mine at all and WASN’T considered part of my salary. But I was

I worked for a few months without meeting the man who owned the
company. I heard he was kind of a flirt, but he paid for his
employees to go to college and had a good sense of humor. Thinking I
could handle this, I agreed to let him to take me out to lunch one
day so he could “get to know” me. He lives about an hour away, so
it’s rare for him to come down, and I wanted to make a good

The man is a nightmare. Seventy-something years old, with a mouth
like a sailor and absolutely no filter. During the course of our
lunch, he commented on my physical appeal, and straight up asked me
if I was interested in “having a physical relationship” with him. I
politely declined, and assumed the matter was settled.

I could not have been more wrong. Since then, he has grabbed me
inappropriately numerous times (including in front of my coworker and
in front of several tenants); commented on my assets in the raunchiest
ways; told me about his diabetes and how his “f***er don’t work” but
that he liked to receive oral sex from attractive girls; and would
talk to me for at least an hour about how beneficial it would be for
me to be one of those attractive girls. Scared of losing my job, I
didn’t punch him in the face. Instead, I would just step away from
him and tell him to stop, and pleaded with my coworker to never leave
me alone with him– not that he cared if anyone was there or not.

On top of all of this, he is a complete jerk: at a company party over
the summer, I found out a friend of mine had died in a car accident,
and while I was sitting there sobbing, he came up and grabbed my

Not to mention, he’s racist as all get-out: he uses terrible words
for minorities, and told a female applying for a position in the
office that he doesn’t hire black people.

The real kicker is, the last time he was down here, he tried to put
his hand down my pants to grab my butt. I stepped away and said,
“Don’t do that.” He proceeded to sit down at my desk and launch into
a two-hour speech about how it was “such a shame” that I have so much
potential that I’d “never live up to” because I “don’t do what it
takes to be successful”. I decided then and there that if he wanted
to see my potential, I would show it to him. In the form of a sexual
harrassment lawsuit. I was infuriated that he had stooped to the
level of psychological warfare because I’m a young female and he
thinks I’m easy to prey on.

I’m staying long enough to record a few of his “advice” sessions (the
man seriously considers propisitioning me for sexual favors and
promising money and security in turn as the greatest advice I could
ever receive), and then I’m going to find a new job while going
through the court procedures. I want to make sure he never does this
to another attractive female as long as he lives.

34 Comments to Put Your Hands Down My Pants

  1. As rare as it was that he came down there, so you say, you sure had a lot of encounters with him.

    So how hot are you? Like really hot or just doable?

    Sorry, I don’t really want to know and don’t care. I just like to say stuff like that. And I apologize for apologizing for something like that.

  2. stupid on November 18th, 2010
  3. Aw man! I think this was going to be one of those TSA stories that have been making the headlines lately. Shame. It’s only about some hot chick living in the ghetto and an old perveretd man whose finger doesn’t work.

  4. donkey puncher on November 18th, 2010
  5. I got a hard-on just reading this.

  6. DooDoo Face on November 18th, 2010
  7. What took you so damn long? Would being unemployed and living with your parents really be worse than what you’ve been experiencing?

  8. Jeff on November 18th, 2010
  9. Get a small voice recorder to keep in your pocket at times you meet him. Some come shaped like a pen. Make sure you clearly turn him down and tell him to stop if you are recording. Also, be clear what you are telling him to stop (“keep your hand off my breast” “do not try to put your hand down my pants”) so it is clear on the tape what action he took. Keep a diary/journal of your encounters with him and record dates, times, and names of other people present. Use a small notepad that you can carry in a pocket and write things down as soon as you can so it’s fresh in your mind. Don’t let anyone else know what you are doing, but don’t make a big deal of it if someone sees you writing; say you’re trying to get better at remembering things you need to do and so you’re writing it down when you think of something. Good luck, and I’m glad you are actually doing something about this. More people need to act.

  10. OtherOptions on November 18th, 2010
  11. OP, you don’t by any chance work for Donald Sterling, do you? The articles I’ve read about him, not to mention the lawsuits he’s been involved in as a slum landlord, describe your boss to a “T”.

  12. Sean B on November 18th, 2010
  13. Donald Sterline, owner of the LA Clippers and Real Estate Mogul? He fits the bill but I highly doubt this is him.

  14. Macho Man, the sexist on November 18th, 2010
  15. It may not actually be legal for you to get a recording without permission, depending on where you are. Check on that before you use an audio recording as evidence, or the courts may flip on you.

    Do keep a log book and do get as many witness testimonies as possible, however. Also act very quickly, or you will have gone past the statute of limitations. This website: has some great information, please read it over.

    Also realize that you are probably already in for an uphill battle. Even with overwhelming evidence, there are a lot of courts out there that just aren’t sympathetic to sexual harassment victims. A number of them will assume it’s your fault for “sending mixed messages,” or that you were baiting him for the eventual lawsuit. You should be ready to have everything you’ve said, done, and worn to be examined and picked apart. By all means, move forward with legal action, but it may not be easy.

    If your company has a reliable HR department, you may be able to seek mediation instead of law action, but make sure they aren’t just monkeying around until the statute of limitations has passed.

  16. Tragelaph on November 18th, 2010
  17. Story teller, I do not have an ounce of sympathy for you whatsoever. You admitted that it wasn’t wise to accept a job off of Craigslist, but you did so. You are also quite naive to think that a job would give you an apartment for free like that. Nothing is for free!

    Thankfully, you seem to be taking proper steps to put this man in his place. Right there is the only smart thing I see you doing right now. But, for all the problems and situations you went through, you can mostly blame yourself. What did you expect going for a job through Craigslist?

  18. Heywood on November 18th, 2010
  19. OP, if you are serious about taking him to court over this, I would delete your post if I were you. You’re pretty much admitting on the internet, a.k.a. in writing, that you plan to trap him into sexually harrassing you so that you can sue him.

  20. uhh...ok on November 18th, 2010
  21. This story is worthless without pictures of the chick.

  22. Fred Krueger on November 18th, 2010
  23. One of the OP’s best qualities is her modesty.

  24. Dinkleberry on November 18th, 2010
  25. Can I see your boobs? Do you have a nice ass to feel?

  26. Dikwitha on November 18th, 2010
  27. “Scared of losing my job,.. I got down on my knees”

  28. Alexandra on November 18th, 2010
  29. @Heywood

    Wow, judgmental much?

    There is nothing inherently wrong with a job ad on Craigslist. I got my wonderful current job of 1.5 years (at a law firm, no less!) from an ad on Craigslist. I’ve also seen plenty of building manager positions that include an apartment as part of the compensation, so it’s certainly not unheard of. Who wasn’t fairly naïve to the working world at 19 and in our current economy most people would jump at a job opportunity even if they had mixed feelings about it.

    Those things aside, there is absolutely NO excuse for this man’s behavior. It is disgusting and prurient and I hope that OP can gather enough evidence to have the book thrown at him. As previously suggested, write things down at minimum and check your states law to see if 1 or 2 party consent is required for recordings. You have my utmost sympathy and I wish you best of luck.

  30. ramfan1701 on November 18th, 2010
  31. Tragelaph, it is perfectly legal to record any conversation without the other persons consent. You legally cannot do it over the phone, but in public you are free to record all you like.

  32. kcmookie on November 18th, 2010
  33. Oh, so you don’t care if he does it to an unattractive female?

  34. Jimbo on November 18th, 2010
  35. You’re not a team player are you? Just give him a hummer and things will settle down.

  36. alpha kenny body on November 18th, 2010
  37. Ignoring the majority of trolls who have no idea how harrowing this can be, I support your sexual harassment case and hope you show him the consequences of his behaviour.

    However, I agree with Jimbo; surely it should not matter whether he does this to an attractive female or an unattractive female. Nor does it matter whether the victim is female or male.

  38. Jarrad on November 18th, 2010
  39. Right on Jarrad, except if a female coworker wants to stick her hands down MY pants it isn’t harrassment, it’s called “Welcome to my 4 inches of Angry Salvation”.

  40. kcmookie on November 18th, 2010
  41. What a stupid bitch. Leave already!!! Why the fuck would any woman stay and put up with this shit?? File a lawsuit afterward, but get the hell out.

  42. ChaKnowWhat? on November 18th, 2010
  43. So, you took the job knowing it was sleazy. You haven’t turned him in despite numerous instances of him grabbing various body parts and making “raunchy” comments. Why did it take you so long to finally file a lawsuit, and why didn’t you leave? From what you said your parents seem financially successful so it’s not like you would have been homeless.

    Also, props for only caring about the “attractive girls.”

  44. HURR DURR on November 19th, 2010
  45. you don’t want him to do this to another attractive female, but it’s ok if he does it to the fatties? wtf? are you as shallow as you are stupid?

  46. meghan on November 19th, 2010
  47. The OP is merely letting us know (indirectly) that she thinks she’s attractive. But I say, PICS or GTFO!

  48. DooDoo Face on November 19th, 2010
  49. yeah cuz ugly chicks don’t get harrassed.

  50. Suze on November 19th, 2010
  51. If you record him without his knowledge, it will at a minimum be inadmissible in court, and you could also get into big time trouble for “illegal wire tapping.”

    Don’t get me wrong, if anyone has justification, it would be you. But the legal system doesn’t see it that way. At best you are wasting your time, at worst you might have several thousand in fines to pay.

  52. Corvis on November 19th, 2010
  53. Suze….LOL, you’re so right. The ugly ones are easier to harrass cuz they don’t get many compliments and enjoy the first few tittie rubs.

  54. ChaKnowWhat? on November 20th, 2010
  55. Corvis you are wrong. Wire tapping applies to a PHONE CONVERSATION. I used to work as a Private Investigator and we recorded people all the time without their consent and it WAS admissable in court. It comes down to a realistic expectation of privacy. If you are out in public, even in your front yard, you have no realistic expectation of privacy and anyone can record you as they like. If you are on your phone, one could expect the call to be private. Get it?

  56. kcmookie on November 22nd, 2010
  57. “I was infuriated that he had stooped to the level of psychological warfare because I’m a young female and he thinks I’m easy to prey on.”

    No, darling…he KNOWS you’re easy to prey on. You should have kicked him in his withered pecker the first time he tried that bullshit. There comes a point where you have to assume some responsibility for the harassment if you keep letting it happen.

  58. Dwong on November 22nd, 2010
  59. Ugly bitches need lovin’ too!

  60. Your Mother on November 22nd, 2010
  61. But it’s totally okay if he does it to the ugly ones,

  62. frank on November 29th, 2010
  63. Jimbo, my thoughts exactly. What a bitch, thinking only attractive women get sexually harassed. It happens to a hell of a lot of people, not all of which are as “hot” as this chick seems to think she is. I also have no sympathy for her.

  64. Seddah on December 28th, 2010
  65. It’s true that voice recording without consent is illegal in some states, so I would encourage OP to check that out for her state of residence. In Maryland, where I live, it is totally illegal.

    Remember Linda Tripp of Clintongate fame? She was indicted by a Maryland court for recording her conversations with Monica Lewinsky without consent, though the charges were eventually dismissed.

    I think it’s ridiculous to blame the OP for her boss’ bad behavior, as some posters here have. How is it her fault that someone else behaved badly? So she should have known better than to take a job advertised on CL? Where is the perp’s responsibility to behave like a civilized human being? I hope she kicks his ass in court….

  66. me on February 6th, 2011
  67. Well you gave me morning wood when you said you were going to show him your potential..then it wilted when you said it was a lawsuit :(

  68. Douche Nozzle on March 21st, 2011

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