I’m a grad student working on my PhD in anthropology. I am concerned
that my advisor is going to drop me because it seems we have some
major differing “opinions” as to the purpose of anthropology. You see,
my advisor seems to be on a quest to use “science” to prove the
existence of God. Every time they find an ancient piece of wood near
Mount Ararat, she’s trying to get the first flight over there so she
can evaluate it first hand. She doesn’t believe in evolution and gets
raging mad when anyone suggests Australophithecus or any other hominid
species is at all related to modern man. She picks and chooses what
scientific methods to believe in, depending on whether or not the
method will tend to support or disprove her hypothesis (for example,
sometimes she believes in carbon dating, other times she claims it is
the most unreliable method to ascertain the true age of an item).
She’s absolutely mad. I would like to try to get a new advisor but I’m
a bit afraid to ask around the department for fear word will get back
to her and she’ll drop me before I have plan B in place. I don’t know
how she ever lasted so long in this field, or how she rose to the
level she’s at today.
Maybe just leave well enough alone until you’re completed your doctorate. But your story reminds me of “Angels and Demons” by Dan Brown.
Are you the Illuminati?
Sounds like she’s in the wrong line of work. I try to avoid those Creationists, personally.
OP, for someone so smart you sure are a stupid. she rose to the level she’s at today by through blow jobs and giving up the purtty tat.
You need to have sex with your boss she needs a penis in her.
carbon dating IS pretty unfucking reliable. doesnt mean its always wrong though. it could date something early american as 300 yrs old or through a fluke 600 hundred. one case we know would be true, the other false. but whatever, her eccentricities arent affecting your learning – they just make you feel wierd. get over it.
I’ve had several friends dropped by their PhD advisors when they were VERY close to being done. It sucks big hairy elephant kahk because you have no recourse. PhD students can be used and dropped, no explanations, no nothing.
I have avoided getting a PhD simply because I don’t want to take the time to do a dissertation and defend it. I’m too lazy…and stupid, obviously.
Indeed, OP, perhaps you could learn from her. She obviously knows what she is about, and perhaps you could join her on the true path. Think of the accolades you would receive when you succeed! (although it is a sin to be so egotisitcal, however, I am trying to help by giving you motivation you might relate to).
I don’t understand how her different beliefs make it impossible for you to learn under her. You don’t say that she insists that you must also be a Creationist in order to get your PhD. Maybe a little bit of tolerance and remembering that we live in a pluralistic society would help you out here. I’d give you the same advice were you a grad student who believed in God and your adviser did not. As you move out of academia and into the real world, you’re going to encounter plenty of people whose beliefs and methods differ from your own. Figure out how to deal with that now.
Although I do not care for the idea of women working outside the home in the capacity described in this story, I do like the sound of this lady. It is perhaps unfortunate for her that I already have a lady friend.
This b!tch exemplifies the product of in house publishing as opposed to peer review journals. Her ideas couldn’t withstand the scrutiny of her peers so she is free to foist her dementia upon you and other unlucky students.
Now for the good part: All you gotta do is wait in the bushes outside her aparment. Lay a Fed Ex box on her porch and ring the bell. When she comes out you jump out of the arbor vidae to the left of the doorway and hit her with something, maybe a club or a 5.11 Tactical Ark Liner Recurve knife…or you know, whatever you have lying around. Just saw that thing around until her throat is gaping like Walter’s throat in front of a glory hole. So the point is, cut her f*cking throat. She’s a lying cheating b!tch who deserves no mercy, I bet.
should the op wear ill-fitting gloves, OJ?
Ignore the trolls. “OJ Simpson” advises murder as the solution to every problem; “Kate” advises sex.
You might indeed be stuck with her. There ARE good scientists out there who don’t see faith and science as mutually exclusive; there are also lots of great scientists who don’t believe in God at all. What this comes down to, though, isn’t her faith – it’s her sloppy methods. Picking and choosing which methods she’s onto this time based on which are more likely to give the results she wants, is what it sounds like she’s doing. Discreetly (or not so discreetly) putting her thumb on the scale. That’s not at all how scientific inquiry is supposed to work – her results would be thrown out if the publisher knew about her sloppy process.
hate to say this, but the OP should get used to the idea of working for people that you disagree with. i don’t agree with Creationism either, but i know i’m going to deal with people that still feel that way.
as long as other view points dont interfere with your work, i don’t see a problem.
Zephyr makes a good point. Document anything shady in her methodology and send it to the university AFTER you get your PhD.
What many commentators do not understand is how important learning proper approaches and methods are during your PhD studies. You need someone who will teach you how to conduct proper research for the rest of your career. This is not simply a matter of “getting along” with people. Your thesis advisor is responsible for your education.
OP, there must be a director for your PhD program. Often, that is the best person to approach because they can talk to other people in the department on your behalf to arrange a new thesis lab. And, I would highly recommend switching advisors so that you can get someone to truly teach you properly. Good luck!
Yeah, Barbara said it. JDizzle, too. You’ll meet a LOT of people in college/university who you don’t agree with, and you’ll have to work with some of them. If you CAN get a transfer, great, do that. But after you’re all done, make sure you’ve documented her willingness to find ways to slant her results in her preferred direction, in detail, and pass them along to her supervisors. The big problem is that she could end up teaching students to do things her way, which would lead to big trouble for them afterward.
Vanity science/physics publications are chock full of people who see no problems with skewing the process to get the desired result.
I am always a fan of documenting. However, the only example OP gives here is carbon dating. Which does not always have the best results. OP must learn that anthropologists all have their quirks. Indeed there was one doctor of anthropology that wore a top hat everywhere, and she’s a girl. She was a great teacher, though.
I also don’t support the theory that because a scientist is a creationist that they have no place in science. I find that utterly preposterous. I think OP needs to think a little bit outside of the box. The reason that she’s made it this far is because she’s learned to curb her beliefs for peer reviewed journals.
I, too, don’t think a creationist can’t be a scientist. The bit about being desperate to trace wood from Mr. Ararat (hoping it’ll be Noah’s Ark) seems a bit silly, but that’s just me; IF the ark existed and wasn’t just another parable, I highly doubt we’ll be simply finding chunks of it poking around.
That’s what you get for trying to get your Phd. at Oral Roberts University!!!!
You think wood evaporates, Zephyr Skunk? I am laughing! Of course it existed, and of course there are still bits and pieces of it somewhere. There is nothing wrong with Oral Roberts University, Bob.
No, but wood rots, and gets eaten by other organisms. Leave a log out in the woods for a few hundred years, and it’ll be gone.
You really think an enormous wooden ship touched by the Creator would succumb to the elements? I am laughing! I AM LAUGHING OUT LOUD! What a silly, stupid idea!
Point madde. But do you think He wants us to find relics like that, knowing very well that multiple groups of people will all claim that their Christian church is the one true Church and that they deserve to own it? I’d like to think He’d want to keep things like that away from the squabbling masses.
Remember, Walt, the Roman Catholics are the true church. No, the Greek Orthodox Catholics are the true church. No, the Baptists are the true church. No, the Seventh-Day Adventists are the true Church. No, the Mormons are the true church. No, the Calvinists are the true church. All the other Christians aren’t really God’s people. *eyeroll*
And to which branch of the church do you hold allegiance, Walt? Most of the named branches don’t seem to hold people who are JUST “Christian” in very high regard. Pick a side, pick a side, everyone has to side with one group or another, they say. I don’t believe that – I tend to attend an Episcopal church, but I don’t claim to be Episcopalian. If you DO pick a side, I’d peg you as a Southern Baptist, the most openly hateful of all the divisions.
What a prejudicial and offensive statement to make, Zephyr.
OP,
Honestly what i would do would be to go to the person who handles the assignments, and when they ask why you want a change, i would say something along the lines that her methods and theories do not match yours, and you believe that you both will benefit more by not being coupled together and that your education the the area will improve if you are able to be paired with someone with similar theories on your general area of study.
Granted, some anthropologists tend to be….quirky, but if you look at the entire field, your going to find numerous theories regarding just about any given subject in the field. You will benefit more with someone like you to a point. Sometimes you need to think about whats best for your career overall. If she is really as bad as you say, then its just going to hurt your career in the long run. You will not learn the things that you are supposed to learn if your belief structure is entirely different.
Sounds like you need to be ass raped to take your mind off your PhD quest.
Well, which branch, if any, DO you belong to? I said the bits about true churches because I’m sick of all these Christians arguing about “I’m a REAL Christian and you’re a fake one!”
I called you a Southern Baptist because they’re about the only ones out there who don’t mind saying things like, “I’ll bet you’re a whore (based on only a guess), you should repent!” Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
When you say things like that, you sound a bit whorish, Zephyr Skunk. You should repent. Some days I feel like I am the only real Christian who frequents this world wide website.
I believe in creationism. I believe Man created God…
This story is total bullshit. It’s impossible for someone to be teaching anthropology at that level if they don’t believe in evolution. That is a primary tenant of anthropology, and the subject of most first level introductory classes. The first anthro class I ever took was called Human Origins and the professor told us that if anyone was going to argue against evolution, with a religious agenda, to leave the class.
Editor guy, you posted this.specifically to torture me, didn’t you..
I might as well go beat myself in the face with a bible and stab myself with a crucifix.
ain’t none yous ever heard of petrified wood?
Petrified wood, what could possibly scare a tree? I AM LAUGHING!
I have large piece petrified wood. Is good to show ladies, no splinters!
Like OMG! College! I totally do not get this story.
This woman sounds stupid, but suck it up, story teller. If you can’t figure out how to make this work maybe you should do something else with your life. Like live in a shack in the woods, all by yourself.
The regulars on this site are a riot. I suppose I’d better either become a troll, or not seriously respond to stories at all.
Ahhhh, Grasshopper (AKA Zephyr Skunk), you have stumbled on the secret of TMB…
Yo Someone, what’s up n!gger? F*ck to the yeah, you want gloves. You can get them year round at the CVS on Santa Monica Blvd near Wilshire. Don’t buy the $5.99 ones, they slipperier than a motherf*cker. Spend a little more and count it as an investment in peace of mind.
Remember, when the time comes you gotta be ruthless. That’s the only way to do this motherf*cker. If a dog get in your way do him too!
OJ, shut your chimp mouth n!gger. Go back in your cage, nobudy here want to here from your stupid mouth
It’s true, Zephyr. There really is a lot of trollish behavior on here. Everyone started by ignoring the trolls, then arguing with them, and eventually many started evolving into trolls themselves. Wait, I’m going to change evolving to adapting because I actually also believe in a Creator–troll me, y’all.
You’re not the only one on here that just tells it how you see it, though. There are still a few of us that aren’t a persona. I’m just me. I use my own name, and I use my own picture on facebook. Feel free to friend me if you find me through this site.
Oh my land!
I won’t be transitioning into a troll. And being trolled doesn’t bother me much. I do enjoy debating with Walt even though I know he’s playing a role. He’s entertaining.
My dear DooDooFace (what an unfortunate name you have, by the way)
I am not entirely sure what you mean by a ‘primary tenant of anthropology’; do you have students renting rooms in your anthropology building? That does sound like a convenience arrangement for studying.
I’m guessing ya’ll are calling me a troll, but whatevs I’m not looking for or trying to start fights. I’m just stating my opinion that this religion debate that moves from thread to thread is re-tarded and annoying to read. Agree with Me or not.I font give a Fuck…
DDF, I miss you. where the fuck have you been?
You are both a troll and a harlot, Suze’s Face. I do not believe there is any religion “debate” going on as Christianity is a set-in-stone fact. Jesus loves us all, even you. Why aren’t you on fire for God, Suze’s Face?
No, you’re not a troll, Suze’s Face. The religion debate, as far as I see it, is mostly me prodding Walt for responses, since his reaction to absolutely every story is that obviously the OP is not pious enough. It’s his role. The reason I prod him so much is that what makes his role believable is that there ARE really religious people who believe most of what he says. MOST of. What entertains me is when he crosses that line and says things not even the craziest Fundie believes. Trust me that I’m not trying to drag you in.
The trolls here, it’s notable, don’t just prod people into anger, which is the usual trolling method. They play roles. Walternator, Walternate and SirJP are fundamentalist devout Christians; Kate tells everyone to have sex with their bosses; OJ Simpson plays the unashamed murderer role that Simpson flashed with his “If I Did It” attempt. I ignore the others, but Walt is fun to mock-debate with because, even as a Christian myself, I find it ludicrous that there are still real people who think religion needs to be like that.
Zephyr Skunk, I have to agree with you and the “Christians” spouting they are the one true religion. I personally can’t stand “Mans Created Religions” but I do believe in G0d as my creator. I even have major doubts about “Mans Created Bible”, since it has been rewritten more times than we know of. One king deciding what should be printed and what should not.
But either way, Love your comments Kephyr.
Stop armchair psychoanalyzing me, Zephyr Skunk. I am what I am and that’s all that I am–I believe that was Decartes.
Christians suck because they are hypocrites.
All of them, Kate?
Everyone’s a hypocrite, Kate. It’s human nature.
I am most certainly NOT a hypocrite.
DDF: I missed you! How’s you doggie’s t-rex face?
Zephyr and Barbara, I welcome you to the lot. I try not to troll. But we all have our bad days.
And really, DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.
Do not engage them, do not talk to them, do not comment on them. Then they will only have few postings.
We’re all hypocrites at some point in our lives. In religious terms: we’re all sinners, but the ONLY sins any Christian has to acknowledge, consider, comment on or deal with are his/her own. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Doesn’t mean we don’t do it – just that Christians should try to avoid leaning on it as a crutch.
Yes, Walt, I think you’re right about the quote. And maybe you’re not a hypocrite, but saying that some person in one of these stories was “probably a whore” is most certainly judging – and, if that isn’t enough, judging based on guesswork, AKA insufficient information. There’s no decision ever as poorly-made as an uninformed decision. For me personally, I don’t even call someone a whore if I see them getting paid for sex – their sins, or even whether they have sins, is NOT my business.
Kate: I’m guessing that you’ve been hated on by your share of vitriolic, spiteful, angry religious nuts. As have, sadly, a billion other people – in fact, in times past, it pains me to say that said angry religious nuts actually saw fit to kill people they didn’t agree with. Allow me to apologize as a Christian, for though I’m absolutely imperfect, I scrupulously avoid the cliches, which isn’t hard because NONE of them are actually tenets of faith. I’ll never, ever try to convert anyone who isn’t interested – but any which way you look at it, I firmly believe that it’s supposed to be about love. “Love thy neighbor as thyself” is, to me, the simplest expression of faith that can be made.
Strom Cloud, not only that, but I’m tired of this branch of Christians saying that they’re the true Christians and that all other branches of Christians are false Christians. It’s worthless to keep arguing. It’s like saying, “When I look at the pretty blue sky, I see it bluer than you see it!” and meaning it with a hefty helping of spite and bitterness.
And again I ask, in all honest curiosity: Walt, do you belong to a specific branch of the church? If so, which one?
And back to the topic at hand: Yeah, carbon dating is iffy at best. The problem is when someone will insist on using it, or insist on not using it, because it will or won’t support their hypothesis. This indicates that the scientist may be willing to intentionally skew results in their favor.
Zeph,
What did I just say about feeding the trolls?
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.
T-Rex, a little bit of kibble wont hurt, will it?
Walter have you ever smelled a twat?
I am in agreement with t-rex, I do not believe we should respond to the trolls on this world wide website.
Which is precisely why I will not respond to Urbanpossum’s vulgar question.
Walter, I believe Popeye, the American cartoon character, said “I yam what’s I yam and that’s all what I yam.”
Descartes said “Cogito ergo sum” I think, therefore I am.
Hey Walt….What were Jesus’ last words!
The adviser proves the old adage ” They who can’t, Teach. ” and or the “Peter Principle”
“Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
Maybe you shouldn’t be doing your grad studies at Hillsdale College.
I believe that question was directed at me, t-rex, although I am pleased that you are well-versed in your Bible trivia. Well-versed! I am laughing! I am such a jokester!
(Once again assuming Walt is for real, for the sake of argument, but not arguing directly with him) What IS a “fareweller,” anyway? The guy at the door who checks your receipt against the contents of your cart? If so, could be that Walt is an older man, who used to have a heavy-duty job, retired, and switched down to something simpler – the way my retired grandpa took a job bagging groceries, it was easy-to-do, made a bit of money and gave him something social to do every day rather than, say, sit around and play Bingo or something. I know that when I get to double my current age, I’ll want to do more than sit on my butt all afternoon.
Zephyr, there used to be a trollish poster who used the screen name “Walter, the Walmart Greeter,” and his schtick was being a crochety old man, if I remember correctly. Then we got Walternate the Costco Fairweller and Walternator the Albertsons’ Stock Boy (or something, I don’t know anymore)as either an homage to or a troll on him.
Huh. Good to know. I’ll have to check some older posts. Anyone know whether the new Walts only post here, or elsewhere in the Three Ring stuff? I found one Walternate post in “Beach Creeps” on a photo of a smoking hot lady in a bikini, musing that he “must have made a wrong turn somewhere,” but that’s it.
t-rex….wrong! His last words were “OUCH!!! them nails hurt!!”
ROFL, NUKE!!! That made my day.
Also, Zephyr, don’t waste your time. There are posts with both the costco fareweller and the walmart greeter in the same thread. In later posts there is Sir JP.
If you post as more than one name, the post requires moderation. It seems the Editor caught onto the possibility. Which means, there is more than one troll going by Walt.
I’m waiting for one of the bible thumpers to get on me about that blasphemous comment. Where are you?
His last words were, “Peter, I can see your house from here.”
lol mr.x. seriously, that was a good one.
Actually, Jesus’ last words were “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.”
I’m shocked Walter didn’t already tell us that.
Yeah, I did enjoy Mr X’s version of Jesus’ last words…it’s pretty funny.
@stupid…Our friend Walt must still be sleeping after a late night out at “church”.
Zephyr Skunk… is that you Herman? My grandson? I too am a retired grandfather who now works at a grocery outlet, stocking shelves and bagging groceries. Once farming became less lucrative, I found that in order to support my family, I needed to find an additional source of income.
nukeretiree, I hate to judge but you are displaying some foolishness. Walternate is at work right now, he works the morning shift at Costco. I don’t know what you’re implying, but there certainly wasn’t an all-night Church activity on a Thursday. Foolish individual you are being.
I hear Walter puts on chaps and a fake mustache and goes to Urban Possum’s house for the face humping of a lifetime.
I’ve heard them going at it. “Hey old timer, ride ‘em mpphh mmpphh ….mmmmmmmmm.”
And old Walter himself shrieking, “Make me come you hellbound queer!”
No, sorry Walt, I don’t have a bigoted, religiously-crazy grampaw. My grandfather’s former job (before bagging groceries) was running a Linotype at a newspaper, he passed away three years ago. He grew up as a member of the Church of the Bretheren, a quiet and peaceful sect who were conscientious objectors during the wars, and in his later life he and my grandmother, a sweet couple dearly in love with each other (a concept I know you don’t understand) were members of the United Church of Christ, from which comes my favorite comment on faith, “Never place a period where God has placed a comma,” meaning don’t accept the past records (the Bible) as ALL there is to faith; God is still speaking.
No, I’m definitely not your grandson Herman. When my grandfather found out I was gay, he never had one tiny bit of an issue. Love thy neighbor (relative, friend, etc.) as thyself. If Herman came out as gay, he’d probably be beat black-and-blue, then disowned.
Zephyr Skunk, shows how little you know, spewing accusations left, right, and centre throughout your post.
First of all, my wife and I have been married for 40 wonderful years. While I do have traditional views regarding the sanctity of marriage, my wife shares my views and is comfortable maintaining the household while I was out tending to Pa’s farm. It is very nice to finish a long day on the farm with a homecooked meal. My wife and I also enjoy a good card game. When Walter came to visit us in Baton Rouge, he and his mother took part and we had a grand time!
I am very loyal to the Lord and do believe in many things that the Bible preaches. Despite the fact that I may not be comfortable being talked to in a sexual manner, especially by those who deem themselves to be homosexual, I do not judge. I would prefer not to hear the details of your private, bedroom life but rest assured, I do not like to hear the sexually explicit stories of Elvis Hitler, stupid, Suze’s Face, The Oxford Comma, or otherwise, and I do not believe any of them to be homosexual. I prefer to keep my private matters to myself. I believe that intercourse is for procreation and if you do not share that view, that is fine but keep in mind that me arguing with you to uphold my viewpoint is no different from you telling me that my view is ridiculous and yours is better. We believe in different things and are entitled to our own opinions, so even though some of you may mock me for being true to my Christianity, it is much better to stand for something than fall for anything.
So, in conclusion, I have had 40 wonderful years with my wife, and if Herman told me that he prefers the company of men, I would not congratulate him on his choice, but I would not beat him black and blue, and I would continue to send him gifts and cards on all the necessary occasions. He would still be my grandson. So I suggest you eat your words, and go back to whatever it is you do all day. Probably drinking and sinning. Consider saying a prayer today instead of believing the world to be a bad place where everyone is evil.
Zephyr…where are you from? I actually grew up a member of The Church of the Brethren. Technically, still a member but haven’t gone there in YEARS.
Not where my grandfather is from, stupid. He grew up in Texas. I’m actually not certain where all the Church of the Bretheren are concentrated. I don’t really adhere to any specific sect, but when I go to church services, I like to attend at the local Episcopal cathedral. They have lovely, uplifting, happy services, a pastor whose sermons I could listen to for hours, and the mightiest pipe organ in the city. I dare anyone who’s had only bad experiences with Christians to go to this church, talk to the people, and walk out feeling oppressed; they’ll be happy to have you and, if you’re not “one of them,” they won’t try to spin you around.
My apologies, Walternator. My ire is mostly at Walternate, who seems to like to say things like, “You’re probably a whore.” Calling someone else out on sins you perceive them to have is not a tenet I can see in Christianity; calling someone out on sins you perceive them to have based on absolutely no information beyond a guess of the “Y’know, I reckon…” variety is far, far worse. If you really feel the need to comment on sins beyond any you may (or may not) have, at the very least base them on concrete details; Walternate just *assumes* everyone is less pious than him and, by proxy, must be a whore. Surely one of the worst things I could do/say would be to insist that I’m the most Christian and others are undoubtedly far less than I. Leading by example is all about being your best, but involves not one ounce of talking down to others.
Walternate is a well travelled man who has a lot of experience in the world. His allegations of certain individuals being whores likely do have some truth hidden in them.
His allegations of certain individuals being whores are not his purview. It is not the business of any Christian to call out another on perceived sins. My sins are mine, yours are yours, and the only thing I need ever really worry about is what I myself do. What I don’t do is lie, cheat, or accuse any other person of sins either perceived, seen firsthand, or simply guessed at. I may have my opinions, but if such things come up in my mind, I keep them where they belong: in my own head.
I don’t care if I’ve seen 200 whores in my travels; each individual is considered alone and not based on any other experience I may have. Anything less is unfair at best and cruel at worst.
Zephyr would you PLEASE shut. the. fuck. up?!
Naah, don’t think I will. I’m I’m not funny enough for your tastes, just ignore me. I’m screwing around with Walter, but he’s not taking the bait; I’ll get bored with it soon enough.
I think what Mr X is just to say is that you talk too damn much. Make your posts short and sweet…and sporadic.
I’ll do my best, but then, I was always a “why be brief when you can be thorough” person.
Zephyr, a wise man says in a sentence what a dolt says in one thousand words. Keep that in mind when you post long winded arguments trying to defame myself and Walternate.
Not trying to defame you, just annoyed at times. But again, Walternate is the one who really gets on my nerves, calling people whores when he’s got no idea. “Oh, no, my boss did something honestly horrible to me!” “Well, you’re probably a whore.”
Perhaps they were flaunting themself in a most unappealing manner. Walternate would not say these things if they were not so.
Zephyr, would you whine less if he tailored his comments directly to you? “Well, Zephyr, you’re probably a cock slurruping homo ass rammer who deserves what he gets. Because you’re so gay. And long winded. But mostly the gay part.”
In all of the tales where he has said so, there was zero evidence in the story.
I rely on my instincts to determine when someone appears to be acting in a whorish manner. One with half a brain can generally tell such things from the writer’s words or tone.
And any Christian with half a heart keeps those thoughts to himself.
I don’t believe Jesus’s message was to be a silent Christian!
Agreed. However, I do believe his message was to love one another, above all else. And as Christ has forgiven the sins of all who believe, unless a storyteller tells you they’re not Christian, there’s no good reason to believe that.
“Do not let even one bad word come from your mouth, but only good words that will encourage when necessary and be helpful to those who hear.” I’d say calling someone a whore isn’t helpful at all. And there’s a difference, even, between, “Jesus can help,” and “If you don’t go to Jesus, you’ll burn in hell!”
Hey Walter, Mary Magdalene was a whore. But Jesus didn’t call her that. He loved her like he loved everyone. (although some believe he may have loved her a little more)